WE ARE A FAMILY HISTORY & RESEARCH CENTRE ~ inside our local Folk History Museum, founded by Merrill & Peter Rhodes 20 years ago ~ The Old School in Church Street ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL .. our historic area covers the former St James parish area, so also Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks & The Groves. Perhaps we should have called it 'The Merrill Museum'; that would have been very appropriate
Our Old Village Schools in 1911  --- and today !



WE ARE VERY SAD TO ANNOUNCE

the death of one of our founding volunteers,
Mr Ken Cooke, an artist, true gentleman
and Great Friend to this museum.
Please see our tribute here . .


LOCKDOWN NEWS IS NOW FURTHER DOWN ON THIS SAME PAGE ..
BOOKINGS FOR TALKS, SPEAKERS,
etc, at outside venues, church halls, schools, etc.
Please see info posted below, nearer to the end of this page


~  ancient  villages  linked  by  our  two churches  family history  ~
Museum Folk & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton & Wawne in times past .. much more to see when you visit .. Incredible list of resources. Use in conjunction with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Wawne Village, links to church, Village Hall, Parish Council, and history St James Churchyard - a full list of graves and memorials War Memorials .. books, DVD, pamphlets, etc, to do with local history or interest. General Links, many local to Hull and the East Riding ; includes many Family History links, with an emphasis on links to the Armed Forces and their associations.
Our Current Exhibition, whatever it is, if there is one

CLICK ME!  for a peek at our churchyard it's nearly 10 inside The Old School ... time to open up!

CLICK TO SEE our new Sutton and Wawne booklets ~ separate potted history of each village ~ A5 format ~ Sutton 12 pages = 2 : Wawne booklet 8pp = 1.50

Site Last Updated: 21:00  April 7th ... next hoped for opening, Friday 25 June 2021 ... ?!?
If then.  If all goes well.  It will if the majority of folk behave and stop spreading Covid about.

There is an explanation of this background map further below, scroll right down, and use F11 for full screen




WELCOME TO ALL OUR WEBSITE VISITORS

A very warm welcome to all our visitors,
and especially to all those
ex-Sutton & Wawne folk who
may have long since left these 'gentle climes'
for other abodes in the far corners of this globe.

With special greetings for those of you now settled
in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa or
the USA, or even anywhere within our Commonwealth and
this great world-wide family of English-speaking peoples.

For all of you who were born, worshipped
Daffs ... some spring flowers to cheer us all up. Carry on regardless, damn the torpedoes! Daffs ... some spring flowers to cheer us all up. Carry on regardless, damn the torpedoes! or were married here in Sutton or Wawne,
or have loved ones resting here -
to you all, wherever in the world you live now,
an especially warm welcome indeed.
We're pleased you have discovered us -
do enjoy.

If you or your kin were ever married or worshipped at
Sutton or Wawne, you will love our 'online-DVD' for just 5.  It features
both churches ... see EVENTS button below for more details.

Photos of all 14 CWGC War Graves in St James' churchyard
were posted on the appropriate page,
added for Armistice Day back in 2009.
Photos of the further 5 Family War Graves and Memorials were
added in time for Armistice Day in 2014. A database of the 420+ men
on all of our memorial plaques was started in 2014, and completed in time
for the 2018 anniversaries. The new plaques can be seen on the War Memorial ~

The vases of daffodils are to cheer all ex-pat Sutton & Wawne folk
who are in need of some cheering up right now.

Clicking the buttons further below will start or stop a short peal
of Sutton's bells. They were added at Christmas, 2003.

May you all enjoy your visit
and brief stay with us.
We hope you will call again.
And of course, if you have a Family History
query we can help with . . . we're here to help !

     or        the churchbells

MAPS - to find us

our new 12  and  8-page
Parish Booklets
our new PARISH BOOKLETS - 2 Sutton -- 1.50 Wawne
2 each - for our funds
OUR MUSEUM BROCHURE

     
The front, and rear pages are on the left:
and the inside panes are on the right.

The background map shown here has a full explanation right at the bottom
of this page; scroll right down, and use F11 for full effect.

The Background map of The Groves that was here on this page,
along with a lengthy explanation of the history of this former
Sutton parish area, is now on a dedicated page of its own.
It can be accessed by clicking . . . The Groves


This Old School was already a venue for local organisations;  bcv!
eg: the Sutton Branch of the W.I. met here on Wednesday evenings,
and the local Tai-Chi club on Monday evenings.
Details of how to Hire THE OLD SCHOOL are here, and more photos showing the venue are here.

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We also have a presence on GOOGLE +, with a map and full directions if required, and many more photos - opens for you in a new window     view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links         DUMP THIS SIDE MENU for Tablet Browsing     Rob's Photo Restoration & Repair Page ... bring to the Museum, or click button for more details .. ALL work benefits the museum funding

reload this page with a Side Menu .. .. if it helps you ... or dump it if not

Our website does now seem to display correctly in most browsers - on PC/laptops
Not so good on mobile phones.  Some better than others.  Suggest you dump side menu.

 

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the 2 school photos above
are historic postcards of 1910


for tablet browsers, dump the Side Menu
view Side Menu on the left if not already visible, for a lot more button links

OUR PUBLICATIONS ... see what we have to sell on DVD-ROM, DVD for TV, or books about Sutton & Wawne
SITEMAP ... to explore other pages on this site, or find out if you are lost
 

A lot of family names & contacts
are already in our Guestbook ...
Why not add yours too .. ?
Do feel free to leave us a message in our Guestbook; see entries from all over the world

we deploy a ramp for diabled access into the Old School - do shout or bang door to ask us for assistance      free Wi-Fi inside the Old School - access code pinned up in tearoom over serving hatch

Founded by Merrill Rhodes, and husband Peter,
we are a local Folk Museum & Family History Centre
inside this Grade II listed school building of 1859;
the oldest former council school in Hull
still used for educational purposes:
staffed entirely by Volunteers and
supported by visitor donations;


Press F11 to view this site Full Screen
- without toolbars!
You can also drag the menu
out of the way to the left.

Click Here also to
enter Our Museum Pages

 

A Map to Find Us at HU7 4TL
The little dead-end side road is
a free car park

Our area covers the historic parishes of both
Sutton and Wawne villages.

Sutton parish also included Stoneferry, Wilmington, St Marks and The Groves,
all the way down to the north side of Witham,
until the 1880s when new
churches were built.

WE OFFER HELP WITH
FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH

every Friday 10 till 2
not just Sutton & Wawne;
ALL areas of the UK !
Donations Always Welcome!


Wawne Primary School old school blazer badge - leads to School Visits Page


We can take a photo of your child for you
in our re-creation of a Victorian School photo ?
Even using one of these Victorian iPads!
We can supply child's cap or other props - have 2 photos, one smiling, one serious!


Click these Chalkboards for More Details!
WE FIND CENSUS RECORDS &
interpretation of Service Records
ships, regiments & squadrons found;

both Royal & Merchant Navy;
Troopships & Convoys;
lost trawlers, etc

St James' Church of England School, Sutton on Hull - the boys' cap badge


We are proud to be supported by:
several local schools and the
Sutton in Holderness
Conservation Society
and many individual
generous donors.



A full list of all our existing
Friends and Supporters
appears on our Friends Page


Sutton & Wawne DVD-ROM Online




G.D.P.R. Data Protection and What we do



our website is hosted by
Free Virtual Servers


Our Twitter page



which leads to our 'Friends Page' . .





G.D.P.R. Data Protection Declaration



We can also be found on our
Google Business Website
Click Me ... I dare you


School Visits from All Schools
very Welcome; if you can get here,
we'll entertain you !


We can also host arranged visits by
Church Groups, Townswomens' Guilds,
Womens' Institutes, Clubs & Societies.



Click the railway station sign
to see our restored station seat



You can contact us at:
admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk


view our FACEBOOK page
Museum & Family History Research on Fridays in the Old School Rooms, a marvellous display of life in Sutton and Wawne in times past; much more to see when you visit .. Incredible list of resources. Use also with FAMILY HISTORY button below ... Family History enquiries and list of resources for St James', & St Peter's, Wawne send an EMAIL to us direct to the volunteers at the Sutton & Wawne Museum dozens of links to military history, both local,national and military, including both World Wars, all armed services, and more Local Photos & Images of Sutton & Wawne

This website, and all its associated pages, is brought to you by the Sutton & Wawne Museum, a Free Museum inside the Old School, Sutton on Hull.
Sutton & Wawne Museum ~ inside The Old School ~ 25 Church St ~ Sutton on Hull ~ HU7 4TL
~~ www.suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk ~~ admin@suttonandwawnemuseum.org.uk


Sutton & Wawne Museum
Lockdown News
At last, more positive news coming through nationally as we strive to get out of this nightmare.  Things are also happening at our little museum, plans are in hand to do some serious maintenance and repairs before we re-open, possibly last Friday in June.  As well as a good clean up.

In the meantime, it is obvious from the amount of interest in the village, as shown on the Facebook pages, "Sutton-on-Hull" run by Lindsey, and our own museum FB page run by Colin, that our museum will be a popular venue once we can open again.  We have seen a tremendous amount of photos, and interesting questions, over this past few months or so.  A good many of those have been questions re the identities of old classmates at the Old School shown on old class photos that folks have posted.  Memories are failing, some folks recall the faces, but not the names, and others know many names but can't put a face to them.  A very mixed picture, and amongst our dozens of class photos in the museum, there are many, many blank spaces still to be filled in. 
This is where I think, with the help of Facebook,
many of you who still reside in the area could help. 

Click the EVENTS button in the menu to find out more.

Also, the DVD which so many of you have heard about, 'Merrill's Book' plus extra photos of both villages/churches, is now available online. Email your order, send 5 to the account number we send you,
and it's as good as done. Usually, the same day.
Details on FRIENDS page or EVENTS.
It works on PC/laptop/iPad, and some phones.
We hope that folks will view this as a form of 'Crowd-Funding' for our museum. You send us a Fiver, we send you something worthwhile.
Sorry, cannot take cards, VISA, etc, just direct online banking.

bluebells at the war memorial.
a rare treat; an online photo album, free to view --- ENJOY!
bluebells at the war memorial.
The Green Album above is a collection of 100+ glass plates,
the 1st vol of the Rev George Coleman collection.
Click the album to go to the page to view it -- and it's FREE.




2021 NEW YEAR UPDATE :

We can now announce that our 2020-2021 Exhibition is now open and available to view here, online. When the museum re-opens, it is planned that the conventional exhibition of artworks and Hull's industrial working womens memories will be on show in the main hall.

The exhibition comprises some 17 pages of many memories of working women in Hull, in a variety of trades and jobs, the linking theme being the headscarves they wore. Many ladies, now of 'advanced' years, were invited to tell their stories of their working life. Over a cup of tea or coffee, and in groups, they were also invited to 'design a scarf' with art materials on the table as they talked. It is those personal designs that we show here, some of which are very pertinent to their story, very moving and of great poignancy.  And there is humour too ...

Our Current Exhibition, whatever it is, if there is one

We are now looking forward to welcoming visitors back in June ... perhaps Friday the  25th.
We have hopes, but nothing is a given .. .. ..


We wish all our many friends, supporters and well-wishers, wherever in the world they are, all the very best.  Chin Up !!

We have a new facility for the purchasing of our online DVD for 5, with online payment taken and access codes to the DVD sent usually now the same day.  See the EVENTS button in the menu, to go to the Museum Page.

Right now, perhaps many of us are in need of some cheering up.  In which case, can I recommend a brief interlude by posting the following:

PAM AYRES
By golly, don't we all really need a good laugh right now.  For those that are not old enough to remember Pam Ayres, she is a very funny lady from deepest Oxfordshire, still going strong with her own brand of wit.
Here's her 2020 Virus Poem: this link to it is on the website:
Rotary Club of Melbourne in Victoria.  English humour from Australia!
Well done Pam, you don't 'alf travel well ...  I hope she wouldn't mind a link being posted here, but your webmaster is a very old fan. 
I remember the teeth!  And not spotting the perils beneath!  Nuff said!

And if you're still really bored and would like to browse an album, we have now made available just one album from our extensive collection online, which previously could only be viewed by visiting the museum.  It is planned to change the album to a fresh one perhaps once a month or so, depending on how it goes.

Click the album, or EVENTS button in the menu to view.
You can look at this one for FREE!

in the churchyard.  bluebells at the war memorial.in the churchyard.



... their joyful songs, and a glee that lasts ...


LOCKDOWN ECHOES

It is very quiet in the Old School Museum
Even the mice have gone to sleep
Nothing moves, and all is still .. ..
No sounds, no laughter, not even a peep.


But hark, is that a creak .. ?
Of a squeaky floor or a wooden door ...
... a softly closing desk lid enhancing
the echos of children, long, long, past -
in gentle laughter and the joys of dancing.


For if we stand, and listen, so very quietly
We can hear in those very rafters
their joyful songs, and a glee that lasts
and will still be sensed by those
who come here in years long after ...
long after we all have long since passed.


2020 . . . Sutton & Wawne Museum


These images were taken by Eric Johnson for the Dominoes series
of teaching books. Our own collection of the series is incomplete, and so these have been supplied from scans done by Amanda Denwood who now lives in Cumbria.  Amanda visited the museum last year, and noted which books were missing, and offered to scan the missing ones for us from her own collection.


from a Dominoes teaching book .... Oooooh noooooo  .... from a Dominoes teaching book ....

For folks longing for a semblance of the past,
even the distant past in that far off childhood country
called Nostalgialand, we have a few copies of a new
book to offer, by former Sutton resident and long-time
friend of our museum, Andrew Suddaby.

CLICK TO SEE inside our new ~ A5 format ~ 50pp = 5 in museum, or 7 to UK addresses post paid

 More general to Britain, but with nods to some
Hull memories that are not specific to Sutton,
this short book in a nice sized font for easy reading
is a general tour of what we did, watched,
and listened to in the UK years ago.


Priced at 7.00 including UK postage only
it will be on offer inside the museum for 5 when we re-open.
Sorry, overseas postage cannot be offered right now,
and in anycase, the cost would probably exceed the book.
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DVD-ROM ... now online, works on PC/laptop/iPad There's more Sutton & Wawne nostalgia to be had on our
Online-DVD, which is a special edition attached to our
website for Worldwide Access, and costs 5.
Email us your order, pay by Online Banking (BACS), and you will be sent the user ID and password by private message, either by email, or FaceBook Messenger. 
Sutton & Wawne
~ DVD-ROM ~

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Let us help you start your tree, and find out where you come from .. We help you start your Family History Research .. We are not always what we think we are ...





PRESENTATIONS - TALKS - SPEAKERS
for Clubs and Societies

S&W MUSEUM

Bookings for Talks at Outside Venues, other churches, halls, etc.

In view of so many uncertainties, it seems more prudent not to resume our offers of speakers for outside venues for this year, 2021, even if and when the museum is again opens to visitors.

Nothing could resume before September anyway, and there will be more certainty by 2022 about what is legally allowed, and what is considered wise to do even if strictly legal.

So for this year, we will not be offering to do talks and slide presentations, other than those we may book to take place within the Old School hall itself, where we are more in control of arrangements within our own volunteer staff.

We regret any disappointment this decision may cause, but we feel sure that interest groups will have had similar discussions and misgivings about whether should be wary of resuming previously normal activities too soon.

 Hopefully, we can say that by next year, 2022, 'normal service' will be resumed.




Volunteer
Staff Area


a small selection of miscellaneous
pics of Volunteer Staff memories are
now available to view for those staff
with the password to access them

Photo Album Archive
now complete up to Folder 19
and Wawne folders 1 - 4





T H E   B A C K G R O U N D   M A P
.. click the little map at the bottom of this page
to see a clearer map in a full window:

backspace to return ..


This version of our (former) background map is one of our earliest, or supposedly so.  Based on a map said to be dating from 1855, there are some significant changes to the maps we usually see of this village. Or more correctly, features we are used to seeing but did not exist when this land was surveyed.  There is also at least one serious anomaly, with this date.  The Old School, as we all know, opened in 1859, and so is not shown here. The map, here 'dated 1855', was obviously surveyed just before the school was built.

We can also note that we still have a 'High Street', rather than the later 'Church Street'.  That is no mistake, it was just so back then. But a real and major 'error' is that we clearly have a railway and its station. How could this be so .. when the railway did not open, history tells us, until 1864?  We see the station master's house is not yet built either, but could that empty box be the foundations for it?  The conclusion must be that this is an amalgam of several surveys, some earlier, some later, and not just 1855.  Indeed, looking at the original map published online by the National Library of Scotland, we see we have a very broad range of dates for all the surveys, 1842 to 1855. So we have a railway, and a station, neither of which existed in 1855. Perhaps the range of dates should have said 1842 to 1865.  
So this map is a little wayward, which teaches us that all old maps of this nature should be treated, if not with suspicion, then certainly with caution.  This is where having a basic handle on the history of your area can help you spot such anomalies.  There is nothing wrong with the accuracy of the map in itself, just with the date attributed to it. But for all that, it is still a good map, and still very useful.

The (empty) site of the school is very clear, as are the former single story cottages which stood in a continous row almost up to the old 'Workhouse'. We see how that juts out into the street, just as it appears in our old photographs of 30 years later.  What at first glance looks to be a marking for a Post Office, PO, shown in front of the old cottages, is no such thing, for on closer inspection it becomes clear as simply a 'P' ... and a tiny circle, on old maps a common marking for a pump, perhaps the village pump and long before piped water. Later maps do mark those cottages as also having a pump in their grounds at the back, and the far end one was later marked as a blacksmiths.

The slightly thicker line under the word 'Pinfold' is roughly where the school wall boundary to the present free car park is now.  And that very word, pinfold, was still used for that same entrance to the back fields right up to the 1960s.  Anciently, a pinfold was a small enclosure in a village where stray animals or livestock could be impounded and kept until claimed by their owners, or even sold to cover the costs.  Many villages had them, and the name widely survives around the country, long after the original use indicated by the name had ceased.  In Sutton, old pupils who attended the school as recently as the 1950s have told us their memories of how they left the pony that they rode to school on 'in the pinfold'. Particularly the girls, from the outlying farms, who would use their pony to come to school, leave it tethered to a fence in the pinfold for the school day with a small bag of hay for sustenance, until the ride home at about 4pm. And, presumably, a topped up water trough too. We're told that there could be several ponies tethered there at any one time!

The very first of the line of old cottages shown here survives today, at the front of our Old School, now the Church Office and likewise with a Grade II listing for posterity. The old Workhouse, previously mentioned, later became the 'wedding green' part of the churchyard garden, and is today next to our War Memorial.  The high brick wall at the back of the wedding green rose garden, being the boundary to the higher churchyard, was fashioned from salvaged old bricks when the Workhouse was later demolished. We can also just see the emergence of Leads Rd, top left, the early days of 'West Parade', and what would become Mona House. We can note the marking of a 'Guide Post' on the far side of the 'T' junction with Wawne Road. I'm sure that was the very same post that once guided me to turn right or left on routes 36 or 37 when I first came to live in Hull !

The wobbly line, with the spot height number 25, is the contour line around the heart of the village, indicating that the ridge on which the village sits lies at a significant height above the surrounding flatter landscape, being 25 feet in old English money at that point - or just short of 8 metres - above sea level.  The lower part of that 8 metres will be the average sea level height between the lowest and heighest tides, and is a good deal lower than the highest water to be seen in the River Hull at Sutton Rd Bridge today when it is nearly overtopping the bank. The 25ft line follows the site of the grassy slope formerly at the rear of the school, of fond memory to generations of pupils that enjoyed playing on the fresh grass bank in spring, or sledging down the fresh snow in winter. 

The true height of Sutton's ridge is indicated by other spot heights around the village, showing small variations of between 28 to 32 feet at the highest.  The triangular symbol on the church tower shows there was a worthwhile view to the west from the top, and that the tower itself could be used as a 'trig point' for surveyors. It's a surprise, and hard to credit, that at a point just along Salthouse Rd, back then called Bilton Lane, at 34 feet, the land was actually a couple of feet higher than the site of St James's Church - the archaic grammer replicated here just as seen on the map.

Sutton residents of many years will easily spot that there are some significant residences missing, notably the terraced range of Church Mount and the extension to the 'Ladies Hospital' which now forms a rounded corner of Lowgate and today is termed the 'Ladies College'.  The line of Potterill Lane is clearly visible, though not named as such then.  One old Sutton resident is sure it once had the name 'Love Lane', but we have found no maps that designated it as such. Similarly, the line of Lime Tree Avenue, and perhaps they really are the very same lime trees that gave the avenue its name, planted long before the rows of dwellings down there.  Both public houses are shown, as are 'Chamberlain's Charity Church of England Schools', undoubtedly the forerunner of our own - now very old - school, but not quite built then - though I imagine plans were well in hand.

The extra symbolism, the animals and creatures, are mine of course, and not part of the original map.  Anyone who knows me and my family roots will understand the reason for that particular fox, though undoubtedly, they would have been enough of them in this area to be a concern to any of these householders that kept fowl, and that would be most of them.  Even the big houses, then increasingly being built by wealthy business and shipping folk from Hull, would have had their own chicken coops and pigsties somewhere on their land, maintained by their servants, of course.

What is also very noticeable to Sutton experts on first glance is the amount of land occupied by orchards, of various sizes. No shortage of apples and pears here, and I daresay nor for most other native prized fruits at the time.  We can even see the gap in the buildings, still there today, just inside Lowgate, the site of the now famous 'Pear Tree Cottage' where the pear tree still comes into full leaf every spring, and that same house being one of the very first homes of Sutton's own 'Telephone Exchange'.  We're talking 1910 here, or the years just before the First War.  That pear tree, by the way, has it's own listing in the city council's list of heritage trees in the wider Sutton conservation area.  For those not familiar with it, I've marked it with the tidliest of marks right on the front of the house where it stands today.

All the colourisation here is also mine, and it's worth also noting that the larger individual trees shown here would most certainly have been here at that time. Surveyors and cartographers did not put them in for decoration, no matter how much a bit of basic amateur artistry makes them appear so.

No doubt others who know the village better, and their own houses or businesses more intimately, will see other signs of the later changes to come, of individual new houses and rather less of orchards and green space as the population grew, largely a result of the opening of that still new railway.  But, despite all that extra building, and all the changes where Sutton has lost buildings, particularly the big houses since the 1950s, the road layout is still pretty much the same, and Sutton is still a village that could recognisably be the Sutton of this map, should a resident of 1855 be able come back and see it today.  It still retains a lot of its old character and atmosphere in abundance.

For those interested in perusing it further, a better version can be seen in its own window by clicking here.





  The Webmanager's Favourite Historical Quote
I first discovered this incisive quote, when I was well past 60. I realised that this is exactly what my history teacher at Crown Hills School was trying to teach us over 50 years ago, albeit in not so many words.
For these words ring just as true now as they did back then, even more so with the pace of change today being so much faster than my own childhood days. If those of our children - that show an interest in their history - understand these thoughts below by the time they leave school, they will be well on their way to understanding not only themselves, but their own country.
Trevallyn's very last sentence sums it all up very well. 

"In political history one King at a time reigns; one Parliament at a time sits. But in social history we find in every period several different kinds of social and economic organisation going on simultaneously in the same country, the same shire, the same town.

Thus, in the realm of agriculture, we find the open-field strip cultivation of the Anglo-Saxons still extant in the eighteenth century, side by side with ancient enclosed fields of the far older Celtic pattern, and modern enclosures scientifically cultivated by methods approved by Arthur Young (ed. an English historian and agriculturalist in the c.18th).

And so it is with the varieties of industrial and commercial organisation the domestic, the craft, the capitalist systems are found side by side down the centuries. In everything the old overlaps the new in religion, in thought, in family custom. There is never any clear cut; there is no single moment when all Englishmen adopt new ways of life and thought."

G.M. Trevelyan:   from his preface to 'An English Social History', 1942.

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